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Questions for American Petroleum Institute's @janevanryan #ACES #ec09

Published August 21, 2009 @ 11:33AM PT

UPDATE, Tues., Aug 25: I've posted Jane Van Ryan's answers.

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UPDATE, 20:48 ET: Jane Van Ryan has responded, via Twitter, that she'll look over my questions and post answers online. Thank you, Jane. Stay tuned, readers...

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August 21, 2009

Jane Van Ryan
New Media Advisor
American Petroleum Institute

Dear Ms. Van Ryan,

I noticed you using Twitter, today, from an energy industry-backed political rally in Lima, Ohio. (I see you're blogging about these rallies, too.)

API's members have such a huge role in the nation's energy and climate policies. The oil and gas industry has already spent $55 million lobbing Congress, According to CNNMoney. It's on track to beat 2008's record-setting $83 million in lobbying expenditures.

Given how much influence this kind of money can buy, I'm encouraged to see you out in the social media scrum, where you can take questions directly from the public and the press.

Since you were tweeting from your mobile phone in Lima, however, it's very possible that you missed my messages. So the salient bits of our not-exchange are reposted below.

I hope you can look them over and get back to me soon with answers.

Best regards,

Emily Gertz
Journalist and Editor
twitter.com/ejgertz

Harry Alford tells the Senate how to deal with the Waxman-Markey bill. Video here: http://ow.ly/kDsH #ec09 #TX #capandtrade #energy

In Lima, OH for an Energy Citizens rally. Scores of people from across Ohio have arrived early to have their voices heard. #energy #ec09

Many more people than anticipated are at the Lima rally. First speaker says climate bll will kill Ohio. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

Attendees include seniors, farmers, truckers, veterans, homemakers, and the unemployed. #energy #ec0C #capandtrade

Ron Williams: We're regular citizens...a postagestamp a day won't pay for the climate bill. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

@janevanryan: $0.44 (stamp) x 304059724 (US pop) x 365 (yr)=$4.883 billion/yr. Pls. expl why too little to pay for climate bill. #ACES #ec09

At the end of the video by Trace Adkins, the crowd exploded in cheers and waved American flags. #energy #ec09 q

Williams: Waxman-Markey will make us more dependent on imported oil. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

@janevanryan Oil is a global commodity. More domestic production would mean nada to security. #ACES #ec09 http://is.gd/2s4Vq

but, @janevanryan, as the new media advisor at American Petroleum Institute., I suspect you know lots about global oil mkt. #ACES #ec09

Gerdeman of Midwest Electric; Ohio"s monthly electric bills could go up 100 percent under Waxman-Markey. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

@janvevanryan API member Shell b'lves solving global wrmg is the pro-growth strategy. Why does API disagree? #ACES #ec09 http://is.gd/2s5q8

@janevanryan: Link to CBO analysis of #ACES costs: http://is.gd/2s5DL #ec09

@janevanryan Per CBO analysis, energy cost hikes under #ACES will vary depending on income, w/poorest quintile getting money back. #ec09

@janevanryan Where did CBO err in its analysis of the energy economics of #ACES? #ec09

Johnston: W-M is a tax. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

Tom Ahl, car dealer: This climate legislation will devastate our nation. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

Whups: $0.44 (stamp) x 304059724 (US pop) x 365 days = $48.83 Billion a yr to cover climate action under #ACES. not mere $4.88 B. #ec09 [[Damn decimal point.]]

Greg Wannamacher, trucking business: We don't need the goverment to tell us how to be more fuel efficient. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

Joel Rudicil, independent oi producer: We employ people in Ohio. W-M could decimate the industry in Ohio. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

Ken Dubbe, Aerial Corp: We've lost 300,000 manufacturing jobs in Ohio, don't want to lose more. #energy #ec09 #capandtrade

@janevanryan Does API back Sen. Sherrod Brown(D-OH)'s bill for clean energy manufacturing investments? #ec09 #ACES http://is.gd/2s8Zq

@janevanryan API's richest member, Exxon, is making big, new investments in clean energy: electric cars, algae-based biofuels, etc.

@janevanryan Here's a link to more about Exxon's clean energy tech investments. $600M +, wow! http://is.gd/2s9cS #ec09 #aces

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  1. Jane Van Ryan

    Hello, Emily,

    As you correctly surmised, I was tweeting on a mobile device last Friday in Lima, Ohio, and I was unable to effectively see your questions. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to respond and to have a discussion with you about the Waxman-Markey bill.

    Your first question addressed the cost of the House-passed climate bill. A new analysis by CRA International indicates the bill will cost much more than a postage stamp per day. According to the analysis, commissioned by API, the Waxman-Markey bill would reduce the purchasing power of the average American household by $1,170 a year and result in a 1.3 percent decline in Gross Domestic Product by 2030. Plus, the analysis shows that the bill would result in a net loss of 2 million jobs nationwide after factoring in the new green jobs. A separate study by the Heritage Foundation says the House bill would cause gasoline prices to rise by 58 percent. At today's prices, that would put gasoline at about $4 a gallon. When these impacts are added together, it's clear that the human and economic cost would be much higher than 44 cents a day per person.

    You also posed a question about energy security. While you're correct in saying that oil is traded on the global market, producing more oil in the United States offers many advantages to American consumers. The country would be less vulnerable to disruptions caused by political unrest abroad. Also, the United States has a very effective and safe network of pipelines that have been transporting oil from wellheads to refineries for decades. Using the U.S. pipeline network reduces the need to transport oil by tankers, which means less oil would be traveling across oceans. Furthermore, increasing domestic oil and natural gas production would create thousands of well-paying jobs, generate tax revenues for the federal, state and local governments, and provide a much needed boost to the economy.

    In response to your question about API's position on climate change, it's important to note that API's membership is opposed to the Waxman-Markey bill. Therefore, API is encouraging the Senate to reject the bill, start over, and craft a climate bill that does not place an unfair burden on consumers of transportation fuels. Consider this fact. The Waxman-Markey bill holds U.S. refiners responsible for 44 percent of carbon emissions, but it provides them with only about 2 percent of the carbon allowances. As a result, U.S. refiners would not be able to compete in the global market with foreign refiners that wouldn't need to purchase carbon credits, and the United States would import more refined products (gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, etc.) from other countries where the environmental standards often are not as stringent. This means the bill would export jobs and pollution abroad to the detriment of American consumers and the environment. How would that help to address climate change?

    The CBO study contains three major flaws. It does not take into account the loss in GDP that is expected as a result of higher energy costs (this impact will ripple throughout the economy as energy impacts all goods and services). It assumes a lower cost of carbon based on readily available international offsets. The Waxman-Markey bill includes 20 pages of restrictions on the use of offsets, so they will not be as readily available as their models predict (in fact, they could be quite scarce). If so, carbon costs would roughly triple, according to CBO. And finally, CBO apportions all the free allowances given to government and businesses to individual households. This "trickle down" assumption is unlikely, especially in the case of government allowances, which would not necessarily go to reducing household taxes or costs.

    I'm not familiar with Sen. Brown's bill, so I'll have to gather some information and get back to you. In the meantime, I think it's important to mention here that API believes that the United States needs a portfolio of energy sources, including alternatives and renewables. The oil and natural gas industry has invested more in emerging energy technologies than any other sector of the economy, including the federal government. The industry not only is preparing for an energy transition; it is leading the way.

    I hope these comments will be helpful to you, and I welcome your feedback. I sincerely hope you and I can engage in an ongoing conversation about energy. Clearly, it is one of the most important issues of our time.

    Best regards,

    Jane Van Ryan

     

    Posted by Jane Van Ryan on 08/24/2009 @ 07:06AM PT

  2. Emily Gertz

    I've moved Ms. Van Ryan's answers to a new blog post.

    Posted by Emily Gertz on 08/25/2009 @ 08:24AM PT

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